Buying A Car Still On Finance
Friday, 9. March 2018
One of my biggest gripes in life is the misinformation that is readily available on the Internet with the owners of the websites, on which the information appears, taking no responsibility whatsoever. Top of the list is Google along with other search engines who rank search results by their economic contribution to their coffers rather than accuracy or even the chronological sequence of posting.
People are relying on the accuracy of the results to make decisions and could end up heavily out of pocket because the advice is either inaccurate or out of date.Other sites such as themoneysavingexpert.com allow anyone to comment on their blog, something that has filled their blog with data and links, enabling its owner, Martin Lewis, to sell the company for £87 million but taking no responsibility for the accuracy of the information imparted, often by people with as much legal knowledge as my sister’s Old English sheepdog, called Izzie by the way and as daft as a doughnut!
A question raised by a firm of lawyers who advise dealers on their legal rights, when in a dispute against a customer, caused me to raise the issue again because a member of their client base asked what would happen if the dealer bought a car having checked that the car wasn’t on finance on HPI. He sold the car and checked HPI again, each time the report showed that it was clear of credit.
3 months later the dealer received a demand from the solicitors of a finance company that claim to have outstanding finance on the car to the tune of £20,000. Having checked HPI, which showed that the car was clear of finance, the dealer claims that title has passed and certainly, as an ‘innocent buyer’ title has passed to the buyer of the car from the dealer. But thanks to a ruling by the House of Lords in 1975 (Moorgate Mercantile Company Limited vs Twitchings) as there is no legal obligation on the part of the finance company to record finance details on HPI, the fact that the finance company forgot to record the car on HPI is irrelevant.
But here’s the twist. Whilst the finance company can apply to the dealer to get his money back, what if they are unaware of the dealer’s involvement? Some will buy to order so let’s say you are looking for a Ford Focus in a particular colour etc. and your local dealer says he’ll look out for a car for you. He finds one privately for sale, buys it, has a service on it, valets it then has a new MOT on it then sells it to you for a nice little profit, he may well not let the DVLA know that he had ownership of the car.
Or supposing the dealership went bust in the meantime, either way the solicitor is directed to you and you receive a demand for the outstanding finance or hand the car back. That is in fact illegal as long as you were told by the seller that the car was free of finance you are now the legal owner. However, I have seen numerous posts on various blogs blaming the innocent buyer and suggesting that he should hand the car over and pursue the person he bought the car from.
This is wrong and I recall reading about an Audi A4 owner who handed his car over to the finance company, having followed the advice on one of the blogs by a complete donkey, or it could have been Izzie. Trouble is if you voluntarily hand over the keys you are highly unlikely to get the car back. Never ever hand over the keys to your car to anyone calling at your door, tell them to put their demands in writing.
In the case illustrated above I have total sympathy with the dealer, what’s he supposed to do, contact every lender in the land and ask if they have finance on the car? And if you are an innocent buyer you shouldn’t be misled by posts on blogs accusing you of being an idiot if you bought a car that was still on finance.
It’s about time that the Government stepped in and forced every lender to record their financial interest in a car via the DVLA – it wouldn’t be rocket science. By Graham Hill